Comments on: Critical Voices http://www.eriontheinterweb.com/2009/07/critical-voices/ About exploring and designing for the web. Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:17:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Marie-Laure http://www.eriontheinterweb.com/2009/07/critical-voices/#comment-52 Marie-Laure Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:45:11 +0000 http://www.eriontheinterweb.com/?p=93#comment-52 Interesting post Eri! Think you're partly right about behaviour changing as a result of being behind a machine - but I think it's also an element of being 'once removed' from the person. It's like people who talk about about you behind your back, but would never have the front to do it to your face. I expect some humans will always behave like this, and maybe more so as it is easier to hide behind a machine. Conversing via the internet is interesting as it is a written medium, yet we're treating social media tools as if they are oral media. Maybe we're still just newbies and learning how to behave in our new environment! Interesting post Eri!
Think you’re partly right about behaviour changing as a result of being behind a machine – but I think it’s also an element of being ‘once removed’ from the person. It’s like people who talk about about you behind your back, but would never have the front to do it to your face. I expect some humans will always behave like this, and maybe more so as it is easier to hide behind a machine. Conversing via the internet is interesting as it is a written medium, yet we’re treating social media tools as if they are oral media. Maybe we’re still just newbies and learning how to behave in our new environment!

]]> By: kristin rohan http://www.eriontheinterweb.com/2009/07/critical-voices/#comment-26 kristin rohan Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:49:56 +0000 http://www.eriontheinterweb.com/?p=93#comment-26 hey eri - great post as usual! if people don't want to deal with snarky people, best to make sure they are not being snarky to start (i'm talking about myself firstly). if we fail to make a big deal about the negative whingers, it will give them less fuel for next time. not to say all aspects of arguments shouldn't be presented and considered - i get some gold nuggets of insight from criticism - but i need to remember not to look at it as criticism - but as someone's else's opinion. sometimes it's hard. it's because we (i) get emotional - humans are passionate creatures - but letting emotions and negativity get the best of us, that's when issues are not resolved or improved. i try to treat people like i like to be treated - and then monitor how much negative/snarky stuff i participate in and read. i can usually find the same info somewhere else w/out the patronizing and meanness. it's easy to dwell on the negative and stingy people - but there are so many positive & collaborative people out there - especially in Sydney. that's why i love it here. cheers to you, for tackling a sticky subject - but presenting it objectively and professionally. best, kristin rohan hey eri – great post as usual!

if people don’t want to deal with snarky people, best to make sure they are not being snarky to start (i’m talking about myself firstly). if we fail to make a big deal about the negative whingers, it will give them less fuel for next time.

not to say all aspects of arguments shouldn’t be presented and considered – i get some gold nuggets of insight from criticism – but i need to remember not to look at it as criticism – but as someone’s else’s opinion. sometimes it’s hard.

it’s because we (i) get emotional – humans are passionate creatures – but letting emotions and negativity get the best of us, that’s when issues are not resolved or improved.

i try to treat people like i like to be treated – and then monitor how much negative/snarky stuff i participate in and read. i can usually find the same info somewhere else w/out the patronizing and meanness.

it’s easy to dwell on the negative and stingy people – but there are so many positive & collaborative people out there – especially in Sydney. that’s why i love it here.

cheers to you, for tackling a sticky subject – but presenting it objectively and professionally.

best,
kristin rohan

]]> By: Laurel Papworth http://www.eriontheinterweb.com/2009/07/critical-voices/#comment-25 Laurel Papworth Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:41:26 +0000 http://www.eriontheinterweb.com/?p=93#comment-25 gosh that's old - I'd forgotten about it :) yes, I wasn't really debating ratings systems - more talking about how "report cards" reinforce positive behaviour. Incidentally, I don't believe people behave worse online - and BazaarVoice found that 4/5 of reviews are positive for example. But I do think we mix with more people outside of our own value system ( our friends/colleagues share our values normally) so we are exposed to more passionate discussions than we usually are comfortable with. It's all good - we were becoming too stodgy and politically correct. Whoever said a good stoush wasn't good for our evolution anyway ;) Eri, you might like the reputation diagram at http://laurelpapworth.com/ripple-social-network-influencers/ Cheers Laurel @SilkCharm gosh that’s old – I’d forgotten about it :)

yes, I wasn’t really debating ratings systems – more talking about how “report cards” reinforce positive behaviour.
Incidentally, I don’t believe people behave worse online – and BazaarVoice found that 4/5 of reviews are positive for example. But I do think we mix with more people outside of our own value system ( our friends/colleagues share our values normally) so we are exposed to more passionate discussions than we usually are comfortable with.

It’s all good – we were becoming too stodgy and politically correct. Whoever said a good stoush wasn’t good for our evolution anyway ;)

Eri, you might like the reputation diagram at http://laurelpapworth.com/ripple-social-network-influencers/
Cheers
Laurel @SilkCharm

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